tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post114045644756585919..comments2023-10-25T12:49:50.074+01:00Comments on The Old Socialist Unity Blog - we have moved: Two stories of the HolocaustANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05901425044840795347noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post-1140970785168856872006-02-26T16:19:00.000+00:002006-02-26T16:19:00.000+00:00Just to note that there is a story based on an in ...Just to note that there is a story based on an in terview with Irving in the Independent on Sunday today basically saying he still doesn't really believe the Holocaust took place. Maybe it was one of those court room anomalies that happen from time to time.badmatthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16655688008055817617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post-1140797363657099692006-02-24T16:09:00.000+00:002006-02-24T16:09:00.000+00:00The WW are almost beyond parody.This article that ...The WW are almost beyond parody.<BR/>This article that Jim Jay quotes contains some interesting arguments, and facts, but is also poluted by almost unreadable dross about what “communists” should and shouldn’t believe. For example, the following turgid paragraph:<BR/><BR/>“This should be an elementary proposition for any organisation calling itself Marxist or communist. As argued in the Communist manifesto, in order “to raise the proletariat to the position of the ruling class” we must “win the battle of democracy” (K Marx, F Engels The communist manifesto London 2002, p243). In other words, communists struggle to extend and broaden democracy to every sphere of life - knowing that the working class can only become a universal ruling class if it masters politics and scientific discourse in general, which in turn requires access to the most advanced theory available. Without the free, full and open clash of different and contending ideas, such theory - so necessary for our self-liberation - can never truly emerge. In terms of classical Marxism, this is very much the orthodox position.”<BR/><BR/>It is like a cargo cult – where if they can mimic the organisational forms and linguistic styles of some dead Russians, then the revolution will surely come.ANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05901425044840795347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post-1140784034272316042006-02-24T12:27:00.000+00:002006-02-24T12:27:00.000+00:00The discussion continues in Weekly Worker<A HREF="http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/613/irving.htm" REL="nofollow">The discussion continues in Weekly Worker</A>Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post-1140511014101115302006-02-21T08:36:00.000+00:002006-02-21T08:36:00.000+00:00He claims that it was reading new primary sources ...He claims that it was reading new primary sources that convinced him, but why was he convinced by the journals of some olf Nazis, but not by the living testimony of holocaust survivors, and the physical evidence of the camps? And his public acknowledgemtn of the Holocaust was only made following the prosecution. he was in Austria to talk to some far right student society, and still tours the USA speaking to fringe groups of Aryan supremisists and people who think that lizards in human form rule the world.<BR/><BR/>But to be honest although I obviously enjoy seeing Irving suffer, I am not sure it is right that someone should be sent to prison for something they wrote years ago, in another country.ANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05901425044840795347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21995284.post-1140485195140739352006-02-21T01:26:00.000+00:002006-02-21T01:26:00.000+00:00I can't believe how happy this made me feel, sigh,...I can't believe how happy this made me feel, sigh, one interesting thing though... <BR/><BR/>our esteemed historian said that although he denied the holocaust all those years ago he no longer did so... what prompted his change of heart? New historical research!<BR/><BR/>It really was so unclear fifteen years ago whether the holocaust had happened or not - but it's all been cleared up now, thank goodnessJim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.com